JoeBlog Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Hey JB, sorry if i mislead anyone but i imported these from Singapore, as you said a lot of work to make and although i know a guy who could make some i dont thing our market for them is that good. Ohhh, I did misunderstand. :oops: They certainly appear to be quite nice and are much cheaper than what the Luminarcs sell for in the States. Cheers, Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted June 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Hey JB, sorry if i mislead anyone but i imported these from Singapore, as you said a lot of work to make and although i know a guy who could make some i dont thing our market for them is that good the first link i posted previous page shows a pic of the diamond lights lumen arc III, the one steve imported from singapore looks identical (as in you cant even tell the difference its a replica, same position of rivet holes and everything) its like someone copied it from the blue prints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeBlog Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 the first link i posted previous page shows a pic of the diamond lights lumen arc III, the one steve imported from singapore looks identical (as in you cant even tell the difference its a replica, same position of rivet holes and everything) its like someone copied it from the blue prints I would say that they are a bargain then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted June 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 I would say that they are a bargain then! i simply said that i dont believe they are a bargain for what they are - in other words the cost of the material and labour to put them together would be next to nothing. you are simply paying for the effect they provide! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetskisteve Posted June 15, 2006 Report Share Posted June 15, 2006 Chim, Ill let u put the jigsaw together & wire your next one yourself then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted June 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 im picking the ones you're importing are pre-riveted! i'd be keen on giving it a go to make one myself. next one i buy off ya i'll make a paper template of it first then see if i can buy some sheets of aluminium and try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted June 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 if u r in wellies, buy these to make some reflectors http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... d=59914325 then send me some sheets up!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetskisteve Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 They are assembled. to fit the E40 bulb holder & wires there is 2 more bits of aluminium to figure out Also if you want to buy some material & DIY be prepared to spend a while polishing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 having only seen pies ones in photo's, and obviously seeing these ones, i would say from your comments that pies have been exceptionally well made. i would give these a construction rating of 6/10 but a functional rating of 9/10. you would have seen my ones, made out of polished stainless and welded together. you could jump of these puppies without leaving a mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suphew Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Pies were made out of the same thin ally as the ones steve is selling, theres not any need for them to be stronger. the sheets used are a lot different from the ones on trademe. it is mirror polished and has the highest reflective index of any metal sheets. I think they cost $60 a sheet, which was enough to make 2.5 fittings. It is the drilling and riveting that takes the time once you have the pattern worked out. Each hole and rivet takes a couple of minutes. 3 holes per joint, 20+ joints depending on how you do the pattern, so at least a 2-3 hours of solid hard work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted June 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 you mean this stuff... http://ullrich-aluminium.co.nz/rolled/lighting.htm already enquired... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeBlog Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 you mean this stuff... http://ullrich-aluminium.co.nz/rolled/lighting.htm already enquired... That's the place that I bought my stuff from, but it wasn't anywhere near $60 per sheet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 I get back in country on the 25th. I will try to remember put post some up then. Thanks Steve I'll be watching for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeBlog Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 Thanks Steve I'll be watching for it. In the mean time, TM has DE bulbs mounted in his reflectors. Maybe we can convince him to take a picture of his bulb mounting setup and light spread as well?! Don't you love it when I volunteer you for things TM?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 OK, well all I want to see is how those DE's are mounted, and if possible some talk about the efficiency, evenness, etc. of the light spread. Be great if you could TM. Might just go this track myself but I'd rather learn the way from someone else . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 BTW Steve, how much did you pay for the sheet of "stuff"? And what actual "stuff" did you ask for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suphew Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 the hassle of putting glass under the DE bulbs puts me off using them for these reflectors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted June 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 I got 2 x 400W'ers on there now, just the two on the right. Bulbs are 14K's. I'm absolutely amazed at how much better lit the tank is now (photo doesnt really show it that well), but am still very impressed by how well T5's can do. Take your choice on lighting (be aware of the halide combinations though and that the middle 150W'er in the first p Here's the tank with 3 x 150W'ers (14K, 10K, 14K) and 4 x T5's (2 whites and 2 blues) Here's the tank with 1 x 150W (left, 14K) and 2 x 400W'ers (middle/right, both 14K) No T5's (I have 2 x white T5's still to hook up, one front, one back. Cant afford 3rd 400W'er til next month) Colour wise, I think I like a middle combination of the two. Intensity wise, even though the pic with T5's looks intense, there are large shaded areas that the 400W with lumen arc reflector covers with ease (see right side of glass where stream is) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera Posted June 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 oh, and here's the 2 x lumen arc's installed..., one more to go and 2 x T5s and I'm buying shares in Genesis Energy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 Don't you love it when I volunteer you for things TM?! Thanks, and your not even in the country....... photos are crap, hard to take a shot of them with the way they are sitting. Hope you can see. hard to see with the reflection, but you get the idea, the bulb sits about 50mm from th top. The light spread is sweet. I put thes on the tank back in october, before i had a smaller reflector. Would not use anything else now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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