lduncan Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 UV doesn't harm anything in the tank that you want to keep. What I meant befor was that for some types of tank, it may not be as useful, as some animals are more tolerant of high nutrient environments. In these cases you might not see the benefits like you would keeping far less tolerant animals like acros etc. Layton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fay Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 So have your acros improved do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Fay they are not recomended in a zeovit tank for the very reason you suspect, they kill the bacteria zeovit is trying to promote. Layton also has another bunch of theories as to why they may be bad in a zeovit tank. So I would not use one myself. However I'll be interested to see the longer term benefits if there are any, being used by someone like Gostface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fay Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 So I have a vodka tank so I should't use it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Fay they are not recomended in a zeovit tank for the very reason you suspect, they kill the bacteria zeovit is trying to promote. That's according to their marketing manual. Read some research and you'll find the truth is quite different. However I'll be interested to see the longer term benefits if there are any, being used by someone like Gostface. :roll: You are absolutely unbelievable. Do you think my UV works differently to every other UV unit ever made? Layton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 So I have a vodka tank so I should't use it? Well UV takes large nutrients in the tank an converts it to small nutrients. ethanol (what's in vodka) is small nutrient. So the choice is to add additional small nutrient in the form of vodka. Or reuse existing large nutrients (which are harder for bacteria to use) by breaking them into small nutrient using UV. Layton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fay Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 So have your acros improved do you think? BUMP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Hard to say. They have been improving for months before adding UV so don't know. What I can definitely say is that it dropped my nitrates from 5 to undetectable after a couple of weeks (exactly like the research says by promoting denitrifying bacteria populations), and the tank became even more clean looking than it was before. Makes things a little lower maintenance too... Well it did, until I got the massive triggers, the skimmer can't really keep up now. So I end up doing more siphoning. From the other thread, another of the main benefits is that you don't have to use carbon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fay Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 So I I use UV I would need to use Vodka or carbon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 You don't need to use it whether you have UV or not. What UV does is take big carbon based molecules which are already in your tank, and convert them to smaller ones (similar to what's in vodka) which are used more efficiently by bacteria, which are then removed by skimming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fay Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 (similar to what's in vodka) So I can just carry on with the Vodka then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted April 1, 2006 Report Share Posted April 1, 2006 Well it's not going to harm anything or cause problems, if that's what you want to know. Layton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slappers Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 well went to my LFS and all they had was 5 to 11watts Pondmaster so i didnt get one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 :roll: You are absolutely unbelievable. Do you think my UV works differently to every other UV unit ever made? Layton ? Not at all. You seem to have got it all wrong here. Perhaps you misread what I said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 That's according to their marketing manual. Read some research and you'll find the truth is quite different. Layton Layton you never give up, even when wrong. They don't have a marketing manual, the one you refer to would be the user manual. And despite your dogged attempts over many threads to prove it wrong, you've never ever proved one thing in their user manual wrong. Not one. However the last UV thread turned into an attack Hanna thread, and I see no reason to allow this one to become an attack Zeovit thread. Howsabout stay with UV in this thread. I only brought up zeovit to point out that UV is not recommended with it, a point your past statements agree with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lduncan Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 No need to get all defensive. The last thread was not attacking Hanna like you suggest, it was providing the facts about what the limitations of the meter are, and how accurate they are. You see it as an attack, but it's reality nothing more. And I haven't attacked zeovit. Just discussed and asked questions about what I see, and what I and other people have experienced while using the system, combined with known facts about it. You see it as an attack because some observations are inconsistent with "marketing" information provided by the manufacturer. You don't seem to take a very objective view of some things. Especially when I post about them. As evidenced by the chemistry thread, and now in this thread: However I'll be interested to see the longer term benefits if there are any, being used by someone like Gostface. Layton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasp Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 You don't seem to take a very objective view of some things. Layton If you want to spend time attacking me, or attacking Zeovit, or attacking the Hanna Colorimeter, may I suggest you start another thread to do it in. This will be yet another thread you are involved in turning into an off topic argument. As previously stated - Howsabout stay with UV in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegasus Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 Time for another read guys. http://www.fnzas.org.nz/fishroom/specia ... 12411.html Topic is UV. Please take your grievances offline. Mod. Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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