stimpy29 Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 will different corries breed together eg pepper with albinos / bronze even thou they are the same species should i breed them and will the fry be vaiable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 I'm pretty sure they will cross.. However all hybrids should be discouraged as it dilutes the pure fish we have around the place and its just generally bad news for the hobby. I don't know about these cories but im pretty sure they're all different species not different colour strains like discus which you can cross without creating hybrids however this can result in some ugly fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 I don't know about these cories but im pretty sure they're all different species not different colour strains like discus which you can cross without creating hybrids however this can result in some ugly fish. The discus may not be hybrids, rather just selectively bred lines. This is a good reason for using Latin names instead of common names. If you took a batch of Symphysodon discus fry and selectively bred two different looks for several generations, they will still both be Symphysodon discus unless you interbreed them with another species. For example, you could call them Symphysodon discus 'Stripey' and Symphysodon discus 'Plain'. If you crossed a 'Plain' with a 'Stripey' the fry would still be Symphysodon discus, in the same way that if an Asian and European person have a child it is still Homo sapiens. All the different colour strains of asian arowana are still Scleropages formosus. But getting back to the original question, you could hybridise cories, but one would have to ask why? You could possibly do it to satisfy your own curiosity, but unless you came up with something very worth-while (ie with some quality far superior to any individual species) I would suggest keeping the hybrids to yourself. As Ryan suggested, diluting species is something we should try to avoid if MAF are considering further restrictions on the border. If one of your hybrids looked a lot like C. sterbai an unsuspecting person may breed it to their C. sterbai and then on-sell the fry as C. sterbai not knowing they aren't true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 Yep thats what I was saying discus are discus and you can cross them with no problems.. Hybrids are a big problem with africans and heres a quote that I found in a link that someone just added that may help its for africans but you can see where its going and how it similair to what your suggesting.. "Breeding Don'ts - Finally, reproductive behavior tends to cause major problems with Cichlids, especially with monogamous species, where sexually active individuals are highly aggressive. Examining Cichlid reproductive behavior is beyond the scope of this "handbook", but we have a few major suggestions to make to anyone considering raising these fish. NEVER encourage your fish to interbreed with other species, or races of the same species. NEVER sell or raise hybrid fish. In the long run, these "mutts" are what really turn people off to Cichlids. When someone purchases a Flameback Hap, they expect males to mature and develop a bright red back. The chances are slim that a hybrid "Flameback" will do this, instead it will probably end up very ugly! Put yourself it that person's place. It's easy to see why we recommend that you avoid these situations. With all the problems facing the ecosystems where these fish naturally come from, we may someday have to rely COMPLETELY on captive raised fish. Concerns For The Future - Lake Victoria is a prime example. Of the approximately 300 species of Haplochromine Cichlids which were endemic to this lake (not found anywhere else), approximately 200 are either extinct or well on their way to becoming so. This is because humans have introduced Nile Perch into the lake, which happened to be extremely effective at preying on these Cichlids. Now, institutions are striving to save what is left. One of the more popular species, Haplochromis sp. "Zebra Obliquidens" (Astatotilapia latifasciata) is now thought to be extinct in the wild, surviving only in hobbyists' aquariums. We cannot risk destroying our valuable captive populations by allowing hybrids to pollute what we have." from http://www.cichlidrecipe.com/crp9.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 Yep thats what I was saying discus are discus and you can cross them with no problems.. There are actually two species of discus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanjury Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 lol well ill just shut up then.. I thought there used to be a heap of different species but they realised they were all the same and renamed them.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David R Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 According to Wiki; The common discus (Symphysodon aequifasciatus), the Heckel discus (Symphysodon discus), and a new species which has been named Symphysodon tarzoo. I guess there's actually three species! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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