ok cool, i did remove the carbon out of my filter, i knew that much lol, ill have to go buy some new stuff in the weekend, because i think it was very old? and there was only one carbon thing in my filter not 2? you guys on here are awesome, i don't know what i would of done :-? , thank you all heaps , i can now rest in peace about my poor little fishes :bounce:, just looking at my fish now and it seems to be getting smaller, so yay i think its working , and i also just want to say i like this place hehe, i was a bit worried about asking, because most times when i ask a question i get jumped on for not reading the instructions or something else lol (some confuse me i cant help it lmao) so im really glad you lot helped me, ok im just starting to babble now :lol: *walks off to watch fish*