I was surprised to see caryls post about filter prices, I was looking around shops inChch today and the cheapest fluval 404 i saw was 419.90 others i saw were around 440.00 to 465.00. Caryl where did you see some for 322.50 and 368.00 that seems very cheap, where they missing parts or something why the diff prices? I am thinking about getting an external filter for a new tank i am setting up. any suggestions on where I should get it from and what brand? I dont really want to go somewhere with pushy salespeople as I am not too clued up on stuff. where is somewhere with staff that are actually helpful. Thanks for any help guys.