CalebLS Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 Have just noticed some ich on a few cardinals and a moly, I will be putting them in their own tank with the temp at 32. What else do I do? Btw their are bristlenose in the tank aswell. How long does it take to go away and can it be fixed? Please help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalebLS Posted July 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 Whoops it's not a Molly it's a platy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 TBH there is not much point putting them in their own tank but ultimately it is up to you. Ich is a parasite, always present but only shows itself when conditions within the tank are not ideal ie parameters, stress. It has a seven day cycle and is only treatable when it can not be seen - when it is in the water column or in the substrate. If you can see it on the fish then it has buried itself under the 'skin' and medications won't work until it releases and falls through the water column into the substrate where it bursts and releases hundreds more spores. Turn your temperature up and add an airline to increase the amount of water movement in the tank. Ideally you would treat with tonic salt in the water however your bristlenose won't handle much salt. Turning the temperature up with speed up the cycle so ensure you vacuum the substrate daily to remove any hatching cysts. If you do put them in their own tank you can treat with salt or tonic (works better than white spot cure), once again make sure you put an airline in to increase the amount of water movement in the tank. Once you have not seen any spots for twenty one days then you can consider it is over, until next time. Any idea what caused this outbreak? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalebLS Posted July 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 Possibly new fish? I got some a few weeks ago and they seemed fine. I will probably raise my temp, but to what? 30? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalebLS Posted July 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 The water temp is already 28 so does it have to be raised or is it fine. Plus I think the turn dial on it is jammed and wont go higher/lower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalebLS Posted July 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 On my other tank (The one where the cardinal is) Te temp is 30. Should I go higher than that, I think there is enough air in the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 30 will be fine but 30 is high for most fish except discus. If you don't want to add an airline ensure that your filter is creating as much a disturbance on the surface of your tank as possible. If you see your fish, particularly the bristlenose coming up to the surface then you need to increase the water movement. 28 won't speed up the cycle much, 30 degrees will but that is the limit that most fish can handle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalebLS Posted July 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 None of them are coming up. The cardinal is looking more active than it was. I will be doing a water change soon, should I vacuum the gravel too? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 Yes vacuum and vacuum - you will be removing any whitespot/cysts that have fallen into the substrate. If you get them before they burst and multiply you will be winning the whitespot battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 Whitespot normally attacks the gills before you see the spots on the fish. This is making the uptake of oxygen difficult and to raise the temperature makes it worse as the water will hold less oxygen, then you add salt which decreases the oxygen even further. The fish are getting pretty stressed out by now. Why not leave the temperature where it is and treat with one of the many suitable whitespot cures available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalebLS Posted July 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 Don't really like the idea of adding chemicals to it. I haven't and won't add salt to it, just do water changes and higher temp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 Whitespot usually arrives through stress and raising the temperature will speed up the life cycle but stress the fish further, it will not kill whitespot. They are your fish and there is many ways to cure whitespot so I wish you luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalebLS Posted August 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 What is a good medicine that will not stain the aquarium or hurt my bn? One of my tetras seems to have a few spots but still acts fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishluva Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 In my opinion, white spot comes with new fish.A bare tank, with no substrate is necessary for successful treatment.White spot cure, works for me. Just about always,at higher doses than recommended.It is such a pain in the proverbial, that I will not, under any circumstances, put un quarantined fish in my main tank.Bristlenose, die wholesale, if left untreated. alexyay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishluva Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 I find that it usually takes approximately two and a half weeks for it to cycle away. I always loose some fish, about one third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalebLS Posted August 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 So it's day 5 of treating, and no deaths so far so pretty happy about that, I have been treating wonder tonic and it works a charm! The seven day cycle will finish Tuesday, but may keep dosing a little. From now on I will try and quarantine my fish, if I have a spare tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 It would be a miracle if you managed to get rid of whitespot within one seven day cycle nb it will only be a seven day cycle if your tank is sitting around 30. Treat for 10 days and if you see no spots watch for another 11. If clear then, that lot of whitespot will be gone - however whitespot is always in the water, each time the fish are stressed there is the chance it will return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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