imsweet Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 In the last 2 days, 2 different breed of young killies have presented with their tail fins in a point rather than splayed. They seem to have trouble keeping swimming and the youngest was almost pale and slightly bent. Now i have only done 1 water change in the last month :roll: neglect i know..... would this be the only problem? they (fishes) were all fine yesterday and the days before. Apart from a decent water change tomorrow, is there anything else i can do? Is it worth chucking them into a seperate container? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrienne Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 with siamese fighters it happens when the ammonia levels get too high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 water changes needed for sure (Im guessing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 As indicated above it is a sign that they are not happy. Might pay to also check for velvet and the easiest way I find for that is to have a look with a torch when it is dark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imsweet Posted October 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 just a thought in the middle of the night.... i have turned my water return around so theres not much surface movement now. Should i start up the airstone again? only if it'll make a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanmin4304 Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Airstones and filters only allow for you to add more fish to the tank. If there is only a light loading with fish then you don't realy need either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie841 Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 How much current do you have in the tank? When our fighters get clamped up we do a huge WC and up the current so they have to ust their tail more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 I would also check for velvet. Add a little salt to the tank perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Posted October 23, 2009 Report Share Posted October 23, 2009 I add salt to all my killis at a rate of 1 tsp per 4 litres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imsweet Posted October 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2009 Did a water change and made improvement on both boys. Will do another today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wok Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Great to hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajbroome Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 I'd say 'velvet'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Andrew what are your thoughts on salt with the killis you have had in the past? Ive found that 1 level teaspoon per 4 litres staves off velvet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajbroome Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 Barrie (et al), I used to keep a baseline sodium chloride level of about that in all my killie tanks. Velvet is a big problem with Nothobranchius spp (IMHO), especially fry, and so I always kept a eye on them and would crank the levels up if required. Species from other genera seem more robust (maybe Ps. annulatus excluded) but a low level of salt has never been a problem with the various species I've bred. BTW: This level of salt doesn't hurt plants, not even Crypts (who are supposed to be very salt-intolerant). There are some people who beleive that if your water quality is good enough then you don't need salt (Hi Stella) but I disagree with regard to some species of killifish. Andrew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Posted July 21, 2010 Report Share Posted July 21, 2010 I havnt noticed any problems with Annulatus and funny enough, they are one that I dont keep salt with With notho fry, Ive started keeping the fry in water with a bit of meth blue with great success. daily water changes slowly reduce the meth blue and within a week to 10 days, the danger period has passed and so has the meth blue BTW, did you ever breed C. Whitei? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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